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ABDUS SABUR AHMED
BONGAIGAON
9435598880
Date:05/12/2016
Organisational PLEASE PUBLISH THE STRATEGY/ACTION UNDERTAKEN/TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY SNEA FOR REVERTED JTOs/SDE OF ASSAM CIRCLE.KINDLY DO SOMRTHING POSITIVE FOR REVERTED JTOs/SDE OF ASSAM CIRCLE0
ABDUS SABUR AHMED
Bongaigaon
9435598880
Date:05/12/2016
Organisational Com. I think new identity cards must be issued immediately to all the provisionally promoted JAOs so that they can cast their valuable votes in the ensuing 1st membership verification to be held on 07.12.2016 without any hindrance as i card is mandatory.0
P RAVINDER REDDY
CIRCLE OFFICE HYDERABAD
9440506061
Date:22/11/2016
Policy SIR IT APPEARS THAT BOTH THE ASSOCIATIONS ARE LOVING ITS CADRE MORE THAN THE PROMOTEE (270) DGMs. BECAUSE, WHEN THERE IS NO RESISTANCE BY BOTH THE ASSOCIATIONS FOR THE PROMOTIONS TO ITS DEPUTATIONISTS, LOT OF RESISTANCE IS APPLIED FOR THE REGULARISATION, ALLOWING L/A GM POSTS TO PROMOTEE DGMs. PAY ANAMOLY IS NOT ADDRESSED. THIS I BROUGHT TO THE NOTICE OF COM.SEBASTIN ALSO WHEN HE CAME TO HYD. I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT SNEA IS VERY STRONG FROM THE BEGINNING IN ADDRESING THE ISSUES RIGHT FROM ABSORPTION CONDITIONS TO THE TIME BOUND PROMOTIONS. PARTICULARLY COM JOGI IS SO DYNAMIC WITH LOT OF VISION IN THE CADRE PROGRESSION. I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS REVENGING ATTITUDE AGAINST PROMOTEE DGMS(270 CASE)WHEN WE ARE SO LIBERAL TOWARDS UNABSORBED ITS. THEY ARE OCCUPYING EVERY POST OF US UP TO THE LEVEL CGMS(ENTRUSTMENT) I REQUEST THE GS SNEA TO ADDRESS A LETTER TO DIRECTOR (HR) ASKING: 1. REGULARISATION OF DGMS 2. TO GIVE L/A GMTD POSTS 3 TO RATIFY THE PAY ANAMOLY LIKE JUNIOR DRAWING MORE PAY THAN SENIORS REGARDS P.RAVINDER REDDY DGM(S&M) CFA CO. HYD 0
k.svs ramakrishna
ELURU SSA
9490134343
Date:22/11/2016
Others If Stay on DPC case at Ernakulam was vacated, Whether Management is ready to give promotions or not. Other than stay any Hurdles are there in DPC promotions. Pl clarify.1
Nageshwar Prasad Singh
JAMSHEDPUR
9470199500
Date:09/11/2016
Others May request the association to interfere in the stalled process of promotion of SDE(C)to the post of EE(C). It is a long pending case.0
S.Bhaskar gupta
TIrupathi
09490182846
Date:09/11/2016
Policy Contribution to social security scheme should be minimum Rs.1000/- for Non-Exe.s and Rs.2500/- for Exes and risk amount should be Rs.10 lakh and 25 lakh respectively2
samanthakamani reddy
tirupathi
9490190899
Date:05/11/2016
Organisational sir, i am hereby requesting u to try for getting an exemption from longstanding transfers in case of single parent issues. because it is shooting so many troubles while shifting, these kind of things are many more in the case of woman(single parent).graduate engrs. union have submitted a request reg. this issue. but we havent received any support sofar from this union reg. this issue. I jhope u will act positively towards this issue, so that atleast others can get benefited. samantha reddy. jto, tirupathi ssa0
A.K.SHUKLA
JHANSHI
-
Date:11/10/2016
Policy In CPSU cadre hirerchy how the Regular SDEs working on E3,E4,E5,E6 pay scales will be promoted.0
P R SUBRAHMANYAM
HYDERABAD
9440000216
Date:29/09/2016
Policy Dear friends The JTO’s in BSNL working since 15 years or more are disappointing and a mum is seen in our group. Then I want to create interest among our members and posted some proposals regarding CPSU cader hierarchy. For this I have recollected the experiences faced by my senior colleagues regarding injustice happened to them compared to their juniors in pay commission. They were telling that in every pay commission juniors will be benefited. To counter this injustice government introduced bunching of increments for seniors and gave extra increments in the 5th pay commission. This matter of compensation to seniors made me to think and draft some useful points in our promotional policy to compensate injustice happened to senior executives. I have named this proposal as 8-4-2-1 approach method for functional Promotions. The main postulates of my proposals are as under: 1. For every cadre there must be fixed residency period say 5 years. The service rendered above this period will be counted for future promotions and so on. 2. This scheme should be effective from 1-10-2000. 3. Service above residency Period will be calculated as under 8years JTO Service= 4years SDE service=2years Sr.SDE Service =1year DE service. That is why it is named as 8421 method. 4. There will not be any deviation in time bound promotions. (they should run parallel) 5. Year of recruitment should be criterion for deciding the seniority of excecutives. 6. The duties of SDE and Sr. SDE should be same. 7. The seniority/ gradation list should be reviewed every year. I am mentioning some examples of positions for some of executives below to give clear picture about this method: Ex1. A JTO with 17 years’ service should be placed as given below: Total service as JTO is 17 years Extra service rendered in the cadre is 17-5=12 yrs. So this service is equivalent to 12/2=6yrs SDE service. But SDE residency period is 5 years only. Hence he completes 1 year extra as SDE and gets half year service advantage in Sr.SDE cadre. After 4 and half years he will be DE. Ex2. Executive with 13 years as JTO and 3 years as SDE Here the extra service rendered as JTO is 13-5=8years i.e equivalent to 4 years as SDE. Total effective SDE service will be 3+4=7 years. As he exceeded the residency service as SDE by 2 years and it is equal to 1yr Sr.SDE service .Then he has to serve as Sr.SDE for 4 years to get DE Promotion and so on. This scheme will protect the service of executives. Thanking you P R Subrahmanyam 3
S.K.Bhattacharyya
Kolkata
9434010118
Date:12/09/2016
Others Can any body tell me when promotion order will be issued for SDE(E) to EE(E).Are Diploma holders will be promoted?Are Degree holders passed from distance mode will be promoted?What is the position of court cases related to this promotion order?Please allow to forgo the promotion if posted outside state in case of officers of more than 56 years of age & serious family medical problem..0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy Now in near future SNEA has to take a decision of handling by declaring that if any body is filing any court cases without the prior permission of GS then their names may be removed from the list and kept in abeyance saying that when ever the judgement of the court then only their case will be resolved remaining DPC may be conducted.so that the remaining should not suffer. then only employees who are going to court at regular intervals will stop once they will come to now that their names will be removed from the list and will be concidered after the decession of the court . then only you can achieve the pramotion policy smoothly just like in accounts wing.1
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy CAT Chandigarh has directed BSNL not to follow reservation in matters of promotion from SDE to DE. This is final order.. now I think their so no case pending try hard with corporate office to implimentation the same since every thing is kept ready . it can be implemented before cadre hiherarchy also ? resolve the sde to de regular pramotion before cadre hiherarchy. if again any new cases are going to be filled the next they should be separate from the list and they should be adjusted as per their case in near future. But the remaining employees DPC should be carried out and implemented early now at least they should not suffer. 0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy CAT Chandigarh has directed BSNL not to follow reservation in matters of promotion from SDE to DE. This is final order. . I think their so no case pending now try hard with corporate office to implimentation the same since every thing is kept ready . it can be implemented before cadre hiherarchy also ? . 0
A.Ramalingam SDE Rasipuram
Rasipuram, Salem SSA TamilNadu
9486103063
Date:08/09/2016
Policy After implementation of the officiating pay protection and fixation with counting the officiating spells for increment whether 93-94 batch will get their first time bound promotion after 4 years,i.e crossing the scale.If not what will be the association strategy as our seniors and also juniors got it after 4 years.0
Ansari Irshad Ahmed
WTR,Mumbai
9423992208
Date:07/09/2016
Policy After implementation of CPSU cadre hierarchy, wheather 93-94 batch will get their first time bound promotion after 4/5 years,if not then what will be your strategy as our seniors got it after four years and our juniors also got it after four years.Why we are being denied?0
SUNIL G
ETR
9434229455
Date:06/09/2016
Policy It can be noticed that there is shortage of staff(JTO/SDE/DE) in some circles. Therefore, executives from distant circles are posted at very distant places from their hometown. Recreational/health/transport facilities may not be good in such remote places and hence people in such remote areas tend to go in depression and get suicidal tendencies. Also, local circle executives may not be willing to serve/work in such locations. To overcome this problem, to some extent, more number of TTAs must be recruited in such SSAs/Circles. Such TTAs can be promoted as JTO/SDE within few years. This may reduce the issue of posting of executives to Hard-Tenure circles within few years. Also, performance of BSNL will improve with availability of more local staff. 0
JAGDISH.G.BHAMBHANI
BHUJ
9427216636
Date:06/09/2016
Policy No action till date Promotion orders from JTO(C) to SDE(C) on regular basis under seniority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM (BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE(C)/M/(BW1)/06-16 Bad HR Policy whereby candidates ahead in list are allocated zone about 2000 km away and candidates behind in list are retained in same zone.Induction of such policy prevents candidates ahead in list from accepting such promotions and work as subordinates with the candidates behind them,since candidates ahead in seniority list will remain always ahead but due to discriminate undefined promotion policy have to stay left out because of discouragement and reluctant received from Department.From the list declared and allocated promotions of promotions its clear such policy disallows growth since persons ahead in seniority list not allocated same zone and are pushed in other zones and clear favorism to persons behind in same list by allocating same zone there by creating degrowth and sick units.0
Jagdish Bhambhani
Bhuj
9427216636
Date:01/09/2016
Policy Grant of promotion orders from JTO ( C ) to SDE ( C ) on regular basis under seniority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM ( BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE ( C )/M/(BW 1)/06-16 Bad HR Policy whereby candidates ahead in list are allocated zone about 2000 km away and candidates behind in list are retained in same zone Induction of such policy prevents candidates ahead in list from accepting such promotions and work as subordinates with the candidates behind them, since candidates ahead in seniority list will remain always ahead but due to discriminate undefined promotion policy have to stay left out From the list declared and allocated promotions of promotions its clear such policy should be opposed and persons ahead in seniority list may also be allocated same zone instead of pushing them in other zones and favoring persons behind in seniority list by allocating same zone 0
KSVS RAMAKRISHNA
ELR
9490134343
Date:31/08/2016
Others Since clarifications are giving in our site. Then how the purpose will be served. Whenever doubts expressed, it is better to solve.0
AMAN MISHRA
JHANSHI
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy Comrade, Maximum SDEs are in E4 or E5 scale so how they will be promoted after CPSU CH .0
B S SHARMA
MUMBAI
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy The CPSU cadre hierarchy proposals by BSNL Management are not fully aligned with the recommendations of the Khan Committee. The change of designations up to AGM grade in line with designations of other CPSUs is a welcome move. But it is very much agonising that the proposals diluted very important recommendations of the Khan Committee. While Khan Committee recommended time-bound functinal promotions up to AGM level, the proposals restrict time-bound functinal promotions up to Sr SDE level only. All the Executives with E4 scale will not be promoted to AGM grade, only Sr SDEs with E4 scale will be given functinal promotion to AGM depending on the availability of posts. There is a lot of confusion in the proposals. The proposals say the present strength of AGMs is 5500 and another 1200 will be promoted to AGM. I do not think there are 1200 Sr SDEs working in BSNL. As per proposals, only Sr SDEs are eligible for promotion to AGM. When there are no ample no. of Sr SDEs, how will a sudden surge be in no. of executives in AGM grade? The proposal on promotion of Executives, who are drawing two or more higher scales than the substantive grade, is also ambiguous. The proposals say the Executives, who are in substantive grade and drawing two or more higher scales, shall be placed in the next higher grade immediately and subsequent grade will be considered after 2 years interval/immediately up to the scale he/she is presently placed. The proposal is so vague that it is not understood whether a JTO with E4 grade is considered for promotion to Chief Manager grade immediately or after two years of interval. It is very astonishing to hear from our great SNEA leaders that a JTO with E3 will be given promotion to SDE immediately and he/she will be promoted to Sr SDE after another 3 years. Nowhere in the proposals, it was mentioned. As the Management asked for the inputs from the Associations on the proposals, all of us should raise our voice against the proposals and demand to implement the Khan Committee recommendations without any deviation. An Executive with E2/E3/E4 scales shall be promoted to Deputy Manager/Senior Manager/Chief Manager-AGM. We should exhort our Associations to demand for implementation of Khan Committee recommendations on CPSU cadre hierarchy in toto. 1
A.K.SHUKLA
New Delhi
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy Sir In CPSU proposal, what will be status of SDE in E-4 & E-5 scale. what will be their substantive cadre, SDE or Sr SDE If SDE than first they will be promoted as SR Manager and have to wait for two years for Chief Manager/AGM promotion. This will be great de-motivation as who have get E-3 10 years back will again become SR SDE (Sr Manager)0
Ansari Irshad Ahmed
WTR,Mumbai
9423992208
Date:28/08/2016
Policy Sir, Please tell the date of implementation of CPSU CH,wheather it will solve our Ist time bound injustice which we got after 6 years?1
KSVS RAMAKRISHNA
ELR
9490134343
Date:25/08/2016
Policy Sir if promotions were delinked with avalabilty of no of posts then, 67% 33% promotions i.e. scf and ldce would be treated as abolished. Then to days ldce candidates position? If to days ldce is taken into account for postings. Then what is the validy of DPC VACANCIES? Pl clarify the policy.0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:25/08/2016
Policy sir In CPSU cadre hiherarchy Employees who are already in E4/E5 Scale with APR score of 8.5 and above out 10 and with outstanding,excellent grading for the last 5 years may be pramoted directly as AGM and DGM regulary while implementing the same This is the only way we can resolve the issue and the candidates who are genuine will get pramoted and this will surely show drastic change in BSNL IN this their should not be problem since the employees who might have achieved this may be the real eligible candidates which will be good for BSNL1
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