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S.K.Bhattacharyya
Kolkata
9434010118
Date:12/09/2016
Others Can any body tell me when promotion order will be issued for SDE(E) to EE(E).Are Diploma holders will be promoted?Are Degree holders passed from distance mode will be promoted?What is the position of court cases related to this promotion order?Please allow to forgo the promotion if posted outside state in case of officers of more than 56 years of age & serious family medical problem..0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy Now in near future SNEA has to take a decision of handling by declaring that if any body is filing any court cases without the prior permission of GS then their names may be removed from the list and kept in abeyance saying that when ever the judgement of the court then only their case will be resolved remaining DPC may be conducted.so that the remaining should not suffer. then only employees who are going to court at regular intervals will stop once they will come to now that their names will be removed from the list and will be concidered after the decession of the court . then only you can achieve the pramotion policy smoothly just like in accounts wing.1
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy CAT Chandigarh has directed BSNL not to follow reservation in matters of promotion from SDE to DE. This is final order.. now I think their so no case pending try hard with corporate office to implimentation the same since every thing is kept ready . it can be implemented before cadre hiherarchy also ? resolve the sde to de regular pramotion before cadre hiherarchy. if again any new cases are going to be filled the next they should be separate from the list and they should be adjusted as per their case in near future. But the remaining employees DPC should be carried out and implemented early now at least they should not suffer. 0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:12/09/2016
Policy CAT Chandigarh has directed BSNL not to follow reservation in matters of promotion from SDE to DE. This is final order. . I think their so no case pending now try hard with corporate office to implimentation the same since every thing is kept ready . it can be implemented before cadre hiherarchy also ? . 0
A.Ramalingam SDE Rasipuram
Rasipuram, Salem SSA TamilNadu
9486103063
Date:08/09/2016
Policy After implementation of the officiating pay protection and fixation with counting the officiating spells for increment whether 93-94 batch will get their first time bound promotion after 4 years,i.e crossing the scale.If not what will be the association strategy as our seniors and also juniors got it after 4 years.0
Ansari Irshad Ahmed
WTR,Mumbai
9423992208
Date:07/09/2016
Policy After implementation of CPSU cadre hierarchy, wheather 93-94 batch will get their first time bound promotion after 4/5 years,if not then what will be your strategy as our seniors got it after four years and our juniors also got it after four years.Why we are being denied?0
SUNIL G
ETR
9434229455
Date:06/09/2016
Policy It can be noticed that there is shortage of staff(JTO/SDE/DE) in some circles. Therefore, executives from distant circles are posted at very distant places from their hometown. Recreational/health/transport facilities may not be good in such remote places and hence people in such remote areas tend to go in depression and get suicidal tendencies. Also, local circle executives may not be willing to serve/work in such locations. To overcome this problem, to some extent, more number of TTAs must be recruited in such SSAs/Circles. Such TTAs can be promoted as JTO/SDE within few years. This may reduce the issue of posting of executives to Hard-Tenure circles within few years. Also, performance of BSNL will improve with availability of more local staff. 0
JAGDISH.G.BHAMBHANI
BHUJ
9427216636
Date:06/09/2016
Policy No action till date Promotion orders from JTO(C) to SDE(C) on regular basis under seniority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM (BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE(C)/M/(BW1)/06-16 Bad HR Policy whereby candidates ahead in list are allocated zone about 2000 km away and candidates behind in list are retained in same zone.Induction of such policy prevents candidates ahead in list from accepting such promotions and work as subordinates with the candidates behind them,since candidates ahead in seniority list will remain always ahead but due to discriminate undefined promotion policy have to stay left out because of discouragement and reluctant received from Department.From the list declared and allocated promotions of promotions its clear such policy disallows growth since persons ahead in seniority list not allocated same zone and are pushed in other zones and clear favorism to persons behind in same list by allocating same zone there by creating degrowth and sick units.0
Jagdish Bhambhani
Bhuj
9427216636
Date:01/09/2016
Policy Grant of promotion orders from JTO ( C ) to SDE ( C ) on regular basis under seniority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM ( BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE ( C )/M/(BW 1)/06-16 Bad HR Policy whereby candidates ahead in list are allocated zone about 2000 km away and candidates behind in list are retained in same zone Induction of such policy prevents candidates ahead in list from accepting such promotions and work as subordinates with the candidates behind them, since candidates ahead in seniority list will remain always ahead but due to discriminate undefined promotion policy have to stay left out From the list declared and allocated promotions of promotions its clear such policy should be opposed and persons ahead in seniority list may also be allocated same zone instead of pushing them in other zones and favoring persons behind in seniority list by allocating same zone 0
KSVS RAMAKRISHNA
ELR
9490134343
Date:31/08/2016
Others Since clarifications are giving in our site. Then how the purpose will be served. Whenever doubts expressed, it is better to solve.0
AMAN MISHRA
JHANSHI
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy Comrade, Maximum SDEs are in E4 or E5 scale so how they will be promoted after CPSU CH .0
B S SHARMA
MUMBAI
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy The CPSU cadre hierarchy proposals by BSNL Management are not fully aligned with the recommendations of the Khan Committee. The change of designations up to AGM grade in line with designations of other CPSUs is a welcome move. But it is very much agonising that the proposals diluted very important recommendations of the Khan Committee. While Khan Committee recommended time-bound functinal promotions up to AGM level, the proposals restrict time-bound functinal promotions up to Sr SDE level only. All the Executives with E4 scale will not be promoted to AGM grade, only Sr SDEs with E4 scale will be given functinal promotion to AGM depending on the availability of posts. There is a lot of confusion in the proposals. The proposals say the present strength of AGMs is 5500 and another 1200 will be promoted to AGM. I do not think there are 1200 Sr SDEs working in BSNL. As per proposals, only Sr SDEs are eligible for promotion to AGM. When there are no ample no. of Sr SDEs, how will a sudden surge be in no. of executives in AGM grade? The proposal on promotion of Executives, who are drawing two or more higher scales than the substantive grade, is also ambiguous. The proposals say the Executives, who are in substantive grade and drawing two or more higher scales, shall be placed in the next higher grade immediately and subsequent grade will be considered after 2 years interval/immediately up to the scale he/she is presently placed. The proposal is so vague that it is not understood whether a JTO with E4 grade is considered for promotion to Chief Manager grade immediately or after two years of interval. It is very astonishing to hear from our great SNEA leaders that a JTO with E3 will be given promotion to SDE immediately and he/she will be promoted to Sr SDE after another 3 years. Nowhere in the proposals, it was mentioned. As the Management asked for the inputs from the Associations on the proposals, all of us should raise our voice against the proposals and demand to implement the Khan Committee recommendations without any deviation. An Executive with E2/E3/E4 scales shall be promoted to Deputy Manager/Senior Manager/Chief Manager-AGM. We should exhort our Associations to demand for implementation of Khan Committee recommendations on CPSU cadre hierarchy in toto. 1
A.K.SHUKLA
New Delhi
-
Date:31/08/2016
Policy Sir In CPSU proposal, what will be status of SDE in E-4 & E-5 scale. what will be their substantive cadre, SDE or Sr SDE If SDE than first they will be promoted as SR Manager and have to wait for two years for Chief Manager/AGM promotion. This will be great de-motivation as who have get E-3 10 years back will again become SR SDE (Sr Manager)0
Ansari Irshad Ahmed
WTR,Mumbai
9423992208
Date:28/08/2016
Policy Sir, Please tell the date of implementation of CPSU CH,wheather it will solve our Ist time bound injustice which we got after 6 years?1
KSVS RAMAKRISHNA
ELR
9490134343
Date:25/08/2016
Policy Sir if promotions were delinked with avalabilty of no of posts then, 67% 33% promotions i.e. scf and ldce would be treated as abolished. Then to days ldce candidates position? If to days ldce is taken into account for postings. Then what is the validy of DPC VACANCIES? Pl clarify the policy.0
S.G.MENON
nagpur
9422101003
Date:25/08/2016
Policy sir In CPSU cadre hiherarchy Employees who are already in E4/E5 Scale with APR score of 8.5 and above out 10 and with outstanding,excellent grading for the last 5 years may be pramoted directly as AGM and DGM regulary while implementing the same This is the only way we can resolve the issue and the candidates who are genuine will get pramoted and this will surely show drastic change in BSNL IN this their should not be problem since the employees who might have achieved this may be the real eligible candidates which will be good for BSNL1
A.Ramalingam SDE Rasipuram
Rasipuram, Salem SSA TamilNadu
9486103063
Date:23/08/2016
Others SDE Officiating spells increment cut and the recovery is deducted from pay till date of August 2016, My retirement is the October 2016. Now my VC clearance given with a recovery of remaining pending amount of 60,000/=. Last eleven months my pay recovery is nearly 2,00,000/= When order to be issued for stopping the recovery of payment.Kindly clarify Sir.1
s g menon
nagpur
9422101003
Date:20/08/2016
Policy THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT WITH DOT IS TO DEMAND CANCELLAION OF P.O. AND BACK TO DOT.THEN ONLY THE PROBLEMS WILL BE RESOLVED.DEMAND FOR IMPLIMENTATION OF 7TH CPRC .THEN ONLY THEY WILL REALISE THE ACTUAL FACTS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE ORDERS OF GOVT ARE SUFFERERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO OUT RIGHTLY REFUSED THE GOVT ARE BENEFITTING.BY THIS PROCESS THE ACTUAL MESSAGE GOING OUT IS NEVER EVER TRUST YOUR GOVT ON THE DAY.SORRY STATE OF AFFAIRS1
Ansari Irshad Ahmed
Mumbai
09423992208
Date:17/08/2016
Policy Respected GS Sir, Now the E2,E3 pay scales got rejected,not even a single recommendation got approved of KHAN Committee.For Ist time bound promotions also,they are saying will be processed after CPSU cadre hirarchy implementation.What is the logic for waiting till implementation of CPSU C.H.if it is not implemented then?Why dont you pursue Ist Time bound case seperately?There is nothing left for us except going into the court of LAW.2
Rajesj
Rohtak
9416010630
Date:17/08/2016
Others Immediately start agitation to stop the payment of 7th pay commission. When there is no money , with BSNL to pay the LTC to BSNL employee then how BSNL is paying 7TH pay commission and allowances like LTC non BSNL employee. This is total failure of association. It is dead sure that 3PRC will not be paid by BSNL. Moderator is requested not to stop this message. 1
jagdish.G.Bhambhani
Bhuj
9427216636
Date:12/08/2016
Policy Sub: Grant of promotion orders from JTO ( C ) to SDE ( C ) on regular basis under senority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM ( BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE ( C )/M/(BW 1)/06-16 Dt 5-8-16 Sirs,As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers. I dt 23rd March 2010 Sr no 2 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat is declared as tenure station As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers.I dt 9th May 2012 Sr no 7 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat is declared as tenure station There is decline to review my two tenures spent at hard stations and still holding additional charge of JTO ( C ), of Bhuj Kutch Gujarat declared as tenure station and As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers. I dt 23rd March 2010 Sr no 2 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat is declared as tenure station and As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers.I dt 9th May 2012 Sr no 7 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat is declared as tenure station stating that the period may be counted as circle break Unfortunately deprived from promotion in Gujarat state inspite of being ahead ( Sr 2) in Merit and seniority the allocated promotion is Himachal pradesh for Sr no 1 & 2 thereby depriving from privilage of seniority0
J.G.BHAMBHANI
BHUJ kachchh Gujarat
9427216636
Date:12/08/2016
Policy Sub: Grant of promotion orders from JTO ( C ) to SDE ( C ) on regular basis under senority cum Fitness Stream (67% quota) Ref: PGM ( BW) BSNL Corporate Office order Trans.pro/SDE ( C )/M/(BW 1)/06-16 Dt 5-8-16 As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers I dt 23rd March 2010 Sr no 2 Bhuj (Kachchh) Gujarat is declared as tenure station and also As per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers I dt 9th May 2012 Sr no 7 Bhuj (Kachchh) Gujarat is declared as tenure station The decline to review two tenures spent at hard stations ( 26-10-1999 to 11-9-2003 at Bhuj Tenure station and 10-5-2009 to 31-5-2014) and still holding additional charge of JTO ( C ), of Bhuj Kutch Gujarat declared as tenure station and as per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers. I dt 23rd March 2010 Sr no 2 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat declared as tenure station a1so as per corporate office personnel section letter no 412/10 /2009 pers.I dt 9th May 2012 Sr no 7 Bhuj Kachchh Gujarat declared as tenure station stating that the period may be counted as circle break tenure Unfortunately deprived from promotion in Gujarat state preferably Subdivision Bhuj ( existing vacancy) at own cost, being 2nd in promotion list 2015-2016 due to non consideration of same0
Shamim Ahmad
Patna
9431200395
Date:12/08/2016
Others Sir, seen the updated Seniority list no. 8 uploaded on 04/08/2016. Several SDEs who passed LDCE as SDE against previous vacancy year allotted in previous list 8 as PQ vacancy year. We have represented that when JTOs got CQ vacancy year then why SDEs got PQ vacancy year. As per SC decision if date of joining is seniority criteria then ok no matter, but CQ vacancy year may be allotted to such SDEs who passed CQ exam as SDE. But surprised to see that in such cases " CQ 07 SEN CANCELLED" mentioned in Remarks column of updated Seniority list no. 8 in all 124 candidates. Why? Whether our CQ exam 2007 cancelled? Where is cancellation letter? What are the charges for cancellaltion of our CQ exam 2007? It is very painful sir. Some suitable words may be mentioned in place of CANCELLED or it will be better if no meaning of vancay year then why carrying sir. Why not vacancy year column deleted. PLEASE TRY TO MODIFY ......0
KSVS RAMAKRISHNA
ELR
9490134343
Date:12/08/2016
Others The DPC cases listed for hearing in weekly, but not coming to hearing since 3 weeks. What is going on cases at ernakulam. 0
Prem Kumar
Ahmedabad
9412256345
Date:04/08/2016
Organisational Just now gone through the SNEA reply to 3rd PRC questionnaire. It seems our union has already accepted the defeat. We are pleading for 2012 pay scales. Quite surprising. No PRC. NO to BSNL. Lets go back to DOT. These losses are not our fault. So we should not be made victims.0
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